John Scheideman

Finally…a response to Paul Jackson

At last, a return to the music I love.

This entry is in response to Paul Jackson, the lead singer of the reformed and rejuvenated Prophets Quartet that also features such fine singers such as Bill Baize, Ed Hill, and Mike Allen.

Paul has just started a blog of his own...and in his first entry, he asked a question almost as old as professional gospel music itself...is gospel music's primary purpose merely to entertain, or ought their be some sort of ministry as a part of the musical experience?

I have addressed this issue numerous times, on gospel music message boards, on my history articles for Southern Gospel News, and in both written and verbal correspondence with fans, artists, and industry people alike. My position has not changed on the issue in some time, so I'll try to summarize it with as much brevity as I can muster(many would say that that would be a daunting task for me!).

It can be both, or one, or the other...I'll elaborate.

If an artist's purpose is merely to entertain and please its' intended audience with the distinct American art form that is gospel music...there is nothing wrong with that whatsoever. Gospel music has always been very pleasing to the ears and to the heart to begin with, and one can certainly do worse than choosing gospel music if the purpose is only to entertain an audience with good music. The fact is that most gospel music historically has been made, recorded, and performed with that simple objective in mind solely...and all things considered, that's not a bad thing to do at all!

When the added aspect of ministry is introduced, however, it can bring a can of worms into an otherwise calm and simple discussion.

I might say from the outset that contrary to the assumptions of a lot of people, there is no conflict whatsoever in performing music that attempts to persuade the audience to consider and/or accept the gospel message and trying to entertain people with it at the same time.

In fact, I argue that music CANNOT minister effectively to people unless it entertains to some degree, at least!

Consider...if you're listening to a gospel quartet that doesn't sing well or have an enjoyable stage presentation for its' music, how likely are you to pay any attention whatsoever to what they're singing?

The answer of course is, you're likely not. So it follows that you need to have at least a minimum of musical competence if you want audiences to consider what your songs are saying to them.

So then, there is little or no chance of ministry of any kind through music if one is unable to reach its' intended audiences musically. I think we can agree on that much.

But John, you might say...what about artists with compelling personal testimonies who can move audiences to consider the cause of Christ? Don't they have a ministry?

And to that I say, they may very well have some kind of ministry. But unless they are able to reach their audiences musically, it is not a music ministry. It can be a preaching or a parachurch ministry or some other sort, but it's not a music ministry unless music is the primary tool used to minister to an audience.

So it follows that if a person wants to have an effective music ministry then, he, she, or they MUST be at least nominally "entertaining" to some degree at least.

Does that mean showy song endings, lame jokes onstage, or matching suits?

Yes...and no. If any of those things(or others I didn't mention)compel the audience to listen closely to the songs, and consider their message, that would be a valid music ministry as I see it. Or to put it another way...

If those things draw attention to the message of the songs, it's part of a music ministry. If they merely draw attention to the performers, and nothing more, it's not. And THAT is not all bad! As I inferred above, there is nothing at all "wrong" with merely giving people pleasure and a good time through the singing of gospel songs...that is perfectly legitimate. After all, it was listening to artists that did only that and not much else that made me a gospel fan at an early age, and ripened my ears and heart for the tue gospel message some years later, when I was in my teens!

The term "ministry" has almost become a cliche in the last twenty years...artists describe what they do as "ministries" rather than "careers", perhaps unwittingly implying that a mere "career" alone is not pleasing to God somehow, and you need to have a ministerial purpose with your music to legitimately perform gospel songs.

Do I consider say, the Statesmen as musical ministers in the same sense as someone like, say, the Weatherfords...since the Weatherfords declared their intentions to minister with their music, and the Statesmen never did?

Yes, I do...because both artists presented music which proclaimed the most important message in the world, and did so in a musically compelling and dynamic way.

That is not to infer that one of those groups was "better" at ministry than the other...it simply is my conclusion based on my analysis of the outcome of their works in the gospel music field.

Paul, I hope that gives you an insight into my answer to your question...I welcome any comments anyone might have.

UPDATE: Paul, what do you think? I believe I addressed the main issue you brought up in your original blog posting, and I'd like to know what you have to say about it. As of the time I'm typing this, I haven't seen any comment from you...I'd genuinely like to know your opinion of my thoughts...do you agree? Disagree? Could care less?:-) If you can spare a moment or two...weigh in...the give and take is always good.
Posted on May 23, 2007 - 05:23 PM | [7] Comments | Southern Gospel Music | Permalink

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John, I have said for years that there is nothing wrong with good Christian entertainment. (You'll notice I used the word good.) However, I have also contended that a balance between entertainment and ministry can be found to the end that individuals listening to the music can find the truth about a personal relationship with Jesus.
The Couriers were always, in my humble opinion, able find that balance. They were exceptional in their musical abilities through much hard work and practice and yet were able to communicate the Gospel.


Commented by On 05/24/2007

John,

I could not agree with you more and this may be the best I have ever heard it explained. I have always felt that their music IS their ministry, and I think I probably have received more spiritual guidance from most of it than I may have from the sermons I have ever heard. However, I continue to need both in my life. I just don't particularly like them mixed. I think maybe the best example is Bill Gaither. There is no one who has ever attended one of his concerts or viewed one of his videos who do not know how deep and devoted his faith is. However, they have never heard him even attempt to preach. With the exception of maybe Billy Graham, there are possibly no ministries that reach so many people.


Commented by On 05/28/2007

John..so sorry to be so slow in responding to your excellent article. I am setting up a link at my blog to your article and will encourage my readers to visit you...
I do take issue a little with your suggestion that I have yet to state my personal opinion on this subject. Maybe you were meaning that I had not yet expressed an opinion about your article. If that was your insinuation then you were certainly correct...However, I thought my original post made clear that I believe there is a need for balance...and this balance will have a different recipe depending on the group.

Your readers can find my post at:
http://www.pauljacksongroup.com/blog/?p=6#comments

The Prophets are blessed with great experience levels in the SG concert stage, secular concert stage and local church platforms. Ed Hill's experience with SG audiences is almost incomparable...Bill Baize has seen both secular and SG audiences and hundreds of church Revivals. Mike Allen has years on the Gaither stage on his impressive resume. I have sung and preached in more than 1,000 churches and some 200+ Multi-church Area Wide Crusades. The challenge for us will be to find our own unique balance recipe.

We intend to SING and hopefully sing well...and in a variety of venues. Ed has stated that he wants this version of TPQ to "minister". We intend for our songs to do the bulk of that ministering, while being sensitive to God's leading and our audience's needs.

I agree with you. The best and most effective "ministry" is usually very "entertaining" in a spiritually uplifting way...Amen?

Thanks for writing this post. I appreciate your warm welcome to the SG blogosphere!

Paul Jackson / The Prophets
http://www.pauljacksongroup.com

Paul Jackson / The Prophets
http://www.pauljacksongroup.com/blog



Commented by Paul Jackson On 05/31/2007

John Scheideman's avatar Paul...of course I was referring to your not having responded to my post earlier. I'm quite sure, being the thinking person you are, that you have shared your thoughts on the subject long before I advanced the discussion here.

And my readers can attest that I know what it's like to be busy and not able to post entries as quickly as I would otherwise intend.

Thanks for linking to yourself here. I encourage my own readers to check out your thoughts as well...this is what I mean by give and take being educational for all interested.

Morning glory and evening grace,

Giving the world a smile each day,

john.sogospelnews.com



Commented by On 05/31/2007

John...thanks for clearing that up for me. You are right, I do have my own thoughts about this issue but I am open to other perspectives. Being new to the SG scene, I want to learn all I can from the artist and other industry pros as well as the great fans that make this music happen for all of us. I don't want to be, or appear to be presumptious in any way. I want to be a blessing to all concerned!

I hope many of my readers visit your site soon.

Paul Jackson / The Prophets
http://www.pauljacksongroup.com/blog/

Paul Jackson / The Prophets
http://www.pauljacksongroup.com/blog



Commented by Paul Jackson On 05/31/2007

Elaine Harcourt's avatar John, I thoroughly agree with you. Ministry & entertainment go together hand-in-glove for me. I have had my socks blessed off with a song & have laughed myself silly with another & it all works for me. After all why can't Christians be entertained from time to time? It's the lyrics in the songs being sung that minister to me & bless me while bringing a smile at times, too. Very well said.

God is good all the time & all the time God is good. 

Elaine Harcourt



Commented by On 06/02/2007

John, Paul sent me this way to respond. Preaching is a totally different way to teach the Bible. Entertainment is also teaching by song. And there are a lot of good teachers out there. You know most of the old songs and a lot of new songs came from the bible. And they have touched the hearts of many. I have sung with Paul's ARC choir and seen the people that come to listen and how there hearts were touched. There is a balance between the two and entertainment is spiritual entertainment. Hearts can be won to Christ through song.


Commented by On 06/04/2007

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